Saturday, November 04, 2006

Collection Part 9 - Silver (5717, Sportsman, Skyliner)

To start things off, this is the pride of my collection, a 5717 with the Seahorse case back. As I do not collect divers, GSs or newer stuff, this is probably as far as I can get until I find a 5718 or a black dial 5717/9. The 5717 seems to have started production early 1964 (I have never seen one with a 1963 date but there are a few from the first half of 1964). As everyone knows, the watch was produced to celebrate the technical achievement of the Japanese industry in advance of the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.

Petew did a nice post with lots of pics on the 5717 and the newer commemorative editions a few years ago.
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?mod=103&action=0&id=1097942201/

The black version is here. Just had to link to this picture.
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?mod=103&action=0&id=1143400752

Randall has also made a 5717 post with a movement pic and some additional technical info.
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?mod=103&action=0&id=1035236721

Probably even more interesting is the 5718 with the extra register. Here is a post with a pic of the 5718 and the 5719.
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?mod=103&action=0&id=1049253965

And as always, there is a Don post regarding the 5718C so I do not need to get into more detail on that one.
http://www.larrybiggs.net/scwf/index.php?mod=103&action=0&id=1043779405


A 5717-8990 from September 1964


It gets an extra picture


There is also this Tokyo Olympics commemorative watch. Not as technically advanced but it plays a nice tune.

In the mid 60s, Seiko made a few "designer" watches based on the 6220 Skyliner movement. Handwind watches in a dress style very different from what was otherwise produced at that time. This one is a bit hard to wear as it is quite small (about 32mm wide by 40mm high). It also has one of Seikos best logo designs.


Two 6220-7970/90 Skyliners from April 1965 and September 1968

The Seiko Sportsman starts production at Suwa in 1960. Essentially you would find it with the 66 non-date movement and the 6602 date version (also as the 957 caliber). The Sportsman is a low end watch presumably sold as an everyday watch at fairly low prices, usually at 17j but also with 15j. It comes in a large number of styles and forms during all of the 60s and probably into the 70s. The automatic version of the Sportsman is the Sportsmatic from 1961 onwards. The Sportsman also exits in a low budget 7j version from 1962. You will find it both with and without the Sportsman text on the dial and with a few different casebacks, usually that flat style but also with the seahorse and less commonly with the dolphin.


A 6602-1990 from June 1963. This is the standard style Sportsman.


A 66-9990 from June 1962. A nice mint version from the SCTF with box, tag, manual and warranty.


A 6602 Sportsman from September 1963. Very similar to the first one but now with the Sportsman text on the dial.


A 66-8040 from December 1968. Later on, lumed more sporty version were produced. This is an export version in quite good shape.


A 6602-9010 from March 1965. Sportsmans as well as Skyliners, Uniques (and perhaps Goldfeathers) also turn up as pocket watches, usually from the mid 60s. Not materially different from the ordinary watches with the same movements but perhaps slightly different dials.


A 66-8980 Seahorse from March 1967. The Sportsman also has a Seahorse version. The only difference that I can see is that it has the Sea Horse designation on the dial. Confusingly the Sea Horse do not always have the Sea Horse caseback, nor do the Sea Horse caseback always coem with a Sea Horse dial.

I have touched on the 62XX caliber in a previous chapter (Collection Part 3). The Seikomatic pages (http://www.h4.dion.ne.jp/~smatic/aboutseikomatic.html) has the complete story on the 62XX. This watch could have gone into the Seikomatic chapter but as it does not have any Seikomatic designation, I put it in here instead. Short story is that the 6201 is an auto caliber from the early 60s, presumably most common in the Silver wave watches.


A 6201-7010 from May 1965

To end things, just a quick new purchase which has not yet arrived but fits OK in the chapter on simple SS watches. This is a 7001 which does not seem to be very common. An easy guess is that this is just a non-date version of the 7005/9, which also gives me a chance to post this link to a good article on these calibers.
http://people.timezone.com/msandler/Articles/Workbench/Seiko/Seiko7005.html


A 7001 from April 1970. A nice military style design not very common to the early 70s Seikos.

This chapter ranges from the cheapest to some of the most expensive Seikos. 5717/9s used to be very rare earlier this year but thing have picked up after the summer and now there are one or two a month. Expect to pay at least USD 250 for lousy stuff, USD 400-500 for OK/good ones and more than USD 1000 for the extremely good ones. On the other hand, Sportsmans are amoung the cheapest vintage Seikos and you can get one for USD 30-50 any day. Pocket watches are even cheaper and have also turned up more often lately.

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